“Knowing that you don’t know is a transformative and powerful way of waking up.”
Byron Katie is a teacher and leader in the world of self-inquiry. She teaches people to find freedom from suffering by not believing their thoughts, and her process for guiding people through this is called “The Work.”
Jon Kabat-Zinn Is a teacher and leader in the world of mindfulness. He founded the Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction program (MBSR) and has spearheaded scientific research behind mindfulness, written more than 10 books on mindfulness and meditation, and is probably the most highly respected man in his field.
Soren Gordhamer, founder of Wisdom 2.0 sits down with them both to discuss the different, yet similar worlds of self-inquiry and mindfulness. In this video, we’ll hear Byron Katie and Jon Kabat-Zinn’s perspective on how the worlds overlap, how they support one another, yet also the different approaches they take to the same problems and issues.
When discussing the topic of the past, present and future, here is what each said:
- “If you want a little fear and terror, get a future. If you want some depression, get a past.” ~Byron Katie
- “The future and the past are the two places we most like to hang out … It becomes a way of avoiding the only reality we are actually in.” ~Jon Kabat-Zinn